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Old 07-07-2006, 11:19 PM
Brian Carlton Brian Carlton is offline
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Originally Posted by Maroon 300D
The good news: I believe I have figured out the cause of the rough shifting I've been getting on cool mornings.

The bad news: It's a climate control leak! This is bad because I was hoping I wouldn't have to take the dash apart to fix this problem.

This morning I got up a little early and tested the vac to my transmission. It registered at just under 6" hg at idle, down from 20.5" hg at idle when it's warm out (ambient temp.). Now before you freak out about the 20.5 number, realize I have an '85 CA car and the vacuum is a little different on it. In other words, the numbers on Diesel Giant's site and in other places may not be right for my car. I don't know what they should be, though...so if you have any thoughts, please chime in.

Now it was a bit dewy this morning so I used the defrost, which I haven't touched in a while...and the shifting was great! I did some more experimenting and sure enough, smooth shifting with defrost on and hard shifting with it off. Previously I'd tried the climate control in various positions - different temps and settings - and it hadn't seemed to make a difference. Guess maybe I'd neglected defrost. I'd also given some vacuum to the blue/green line that I think goes to the climate control and it held the vacuum, but that was when it was warm out and the problem only surfaces when it's cool.
Note the following:

The selection of "defrost" shuts down the vacuum to all actuators. So, if thre are any leaks in the pods, the system won't see the leak because no vacuum is sent to any actuator in this condition.

The climate control system should have a restrictor to prevent the exact scenario that you experience. The SD, like all of the 20 year old vehicles, had two leaking pods for years, resulting in defrost all the time, but the transmission was not affected because the size of the vacuum leak through the restrictor was not sufficient to drop the vacuum to the transmission.

So, if you can't get your pods fixed quickly, get the restrictor back in the system and all will be well.
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