Originally Posted by aklim

Yes, what of it? Giving to charity is NOT an obligation like walking the dog. Whether it gives a person joy to extend a helping hand is inconsequential to certain questions. However, to the question of whether they get repayment, it is important.

If Warren Buffet had given 40 bil to charities in a quiet way that doesn't attract attention, how did you know about it? He will not see the money back in payback or favors. However, as I ahve said before, he gets paid back in a different coin. You know of it and probably admire him for it. IOW, he has bought recognition and admiration with his 40 bil. Is it worth it to me? Absoultely not. To him, probably. Some people use their money to buy favors, others buy admiration and recognition and others buy property.

I am not against charities or giving. However, if you want to accuse people of alturism, you had best make sure they are not getting paid in ANY way, shape or form otherwise it is not truely alturistic. As they said in OJ's case "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit." You have accused the human race of alturism and it doesn't fit as long as they get a payback in ANY form. Payback is not limited to repayment of the money, favors, sex, etc, etc.