There must be a pad on the top to receive the top of the spring and insulate the spring from the chassis. No pad on the bottom. Just vary the number of tits. My 210 wagon has H&R springs and I used pads with the most tits front and rear (I believe the max was 4 front and 3 rear. See the pics in my gallery to see the ride height. I believe that the Eibach springs result in a lower ride for a given pad thickness. Mark