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Originally Posted by raymr
I do agree that things need to be done differently from the past. But before doing anything that millions of people might regret, there should be an honest impartial examination as to whether we are in a deadly embrace with the Israelis. It seems we are getting sucked into a religious war that we have no business being in. Its a war of ideals with essentially no national boundaries, except for the line drawn around Israel.
And what if we bomb Iran into glass? Will Egypt and others stay neutral during such an event? Don't you think thousands of new Jihadists will emerge from all corners of the world for decades to get some revenge?
It would be bad to abandon Israel, but this out-of-control spiral that many people see coming looks equally bad.
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Well, at the time it was a good idea to help the Isrealis. At this time, it seems still a good idea since they are there and in a position to give the muslims something to worry about. Besides, life is not a video game. They are not likely to forget us as enemies so even if we did walk away, it wouldn't cure the matter.
Maybe, maybe not. But it leaves them something to worry about. Now they can see victory because they know that willpower will win and they know we don't have the will to win.
So? We are not married to Isreal. When it doesn't pay, it doesn't pay. At this time, I think it does since they have the stones to go further than we do and sometimes it might be necessary. However, allies are allies only when they have to be. This is not a "Forever and ever" thing. If all the muslims there died and the region is taken over by say the french and it isn't in our interests to do anything about it, oh well./