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Old 08-16-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by peragro View Post
My point wasn't that the subjugation passages aren't there, clearly they are as they are to some extent in the old testement. New testement is more of a free will tome in which you choose rather than force - different from Islam, but another discussion entirely.

Suggesting that radical Islamists do what they do because of whomever's usage of natural resources is wishful thinking on one hand and the application of one religous world view upon another.

It is simple. The people who run the terrorist organizations; Nasrallah, Iran, Arafat, etc... are in it for the power. They could give a rats @ss about anything remotely environmental. The folks who are fanatic about terrorism do it because their leaders tell them the Koran tells them to do it and they will be rewarded in heaven once they are done with this misarable existence here on earth - and if you can take some unbelievers with you then that's a plus for everyone who subscribes to that point of view. It is a conflict between two competing views of what civilisation should be.

And now another question. Why is so much energy expended on our support of previous dictators? Every country under the sun does it and has done so. It is called diplomacy and statecraft. Indeed, much of the issue in the middle east arises from European colonialism - not US colonialism. Furthermore, the EU uses as much, if not more, energy than does the US (and don't pop up a graph saying otherwise unless it's normalised for population, land area and local resources). So why is it that this country is continually pilloried by the left yet Europe is looked upon as forward thinking and rational; two things that they have historically not been and aren't now.
It might be wishful thinking to believe that our oil consumption doesn't have anything to do with our country being targeted by these radical groups.
In spite of the clash of civilizations, Chrisitans and Muslims have both existed for over 1,000 years and both can exist for another 1,000 and more if we all play our cards right.

We shouldn't give in to the demands of these radical groups, but taking steps to wean ourselves off of foreign oil just seems like a smart idea.

Your comment about Europe's tendency to be the opposite of forward thinking and rational is a good one IMO, BTW.
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