Originally Posted by cmac2012

Of course we treat prisoners way better and we should continue to, that is, once we eschew this torture business. These guys are too loosely affiliated for torture to be of much use. Too many independent franchises.

It's sad but true, even if they do 10 times worse than we do, when we torture, they'll just use it as more grist for their mill about what infidels we are.

I say we lead by example.

The great Sioux medicine man, Black Elk, returned from a hunt with the other men once to find their village ransacked, the women and children dead, raped, scalped, maimed -- everything in smoldering ruins. They knew it was the white man because of the manner of killing. The young braves were incredibly hot for revenge, whooping and exhorting each other about how they were going to return the same ten-fold to the whites. Black Elk held up his hand and said, "Wait! These people are NOT our teachers."