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Originally Posted by cmac2012
Self fulfilling prophecy. Who is this "they" you speak of? One billion Muslims in the world. No Muslim has ever gotten in my face rudely. I'm sure some of the extremists would be happy to drain my blood, my point is they are a small minority. It behooves us to not increase their numbers.
On the 1/10th of one percent chance, if that, that we might learn some "actionable intelligence" (they get a hard-on when they talk like that) through torture, we set the stage for a 98% chance of making an enemy for life. And all the experts say torture doesn't work anyway.
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Once again, you are only looking at the surface. So, if all the radicals were to come up to you and tell you they repent their ways, we are all hunky dory, right? If I give money to a bunch of people to finance their bank robbery, I am not a thief, right? Oh, I will decry bank robbery too.
OK, you arrange yourself in a cell pattern. 1 member knows somebody else and the other members of the cell know each other. You can work your way up. Torture doesn't work to gather a confession because they will confess to anything to stop it. However, if we know something, that low percentage of a chance is now a payoff. In any case, what have we to lose? We cannot turn the guy loose and give him a great meal so he becomes a friend. Their loyalty is to other muslims. Even you have more or less admitted that when you mentioned that even if they do something 10X worse than us the other muslims will side with them or something to that effect. But say we torture 1000 people and we get some info that saves some lives. How bad is that? Now, I am talking about being selective here and not just some $5000 bounty guy. I am talking about someone possibly with info like say if we catch them when they are fighting us.