Thanks for the tip Bot...in the past we've used detergent on a couple of occasions when we've run out of surfactant. What do you think about simply dropping the surfactant?

We're particulalry overtaken with simlax (greenbrier), a tenacious thorny, woody vine that is damned near impossible to kill.... when you zap the leaves it kills the nearest part of the plant but pretty soon you'll see another sprouting up close by os I guess there's some connection in the root system. In areas that we want to rehabilitate we've used significant amounts of glyphosate herbicide during the last two years. It appears to have finally knocked out the simlax there because it's not reappearing this spring.

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