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Originally Posted by stevebfl
When sitting here contemplating how a novice will experience this job it is really hard to get a true feel. I've probably been involved with 300 plus valve jobs/chain failures on 116/117 engines. I can imagine a flat rate tech with an impact and a bunch of technique sliding a head out without removing an intake. Gonna reuse the gaskets of course, bound to seal, ain't my car.....
Slam that b*tch.
Maybe the fact I have never paid flat rate is the reason that in over 300 of these jobs I never considered leaving the intake on and neither did MB as that is why a each head set comes with a full set of intake gaskets. it is also probably why the flat rate gives 17 hours for one head and 25 for two. I don't suppose any tech sliding heads ever gave back the part of flat rate designed to pay for removing and restoring the intake systems.
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I agree with Steve. I'm just letting him know,yes it it possible to remove the head without intake. Is it the right way to do it? No! just like I stated in my post. I, personally DO NOT charge the rate for removing the intake when I don't. I've done over a hundred or so chain failure jobs. I always tell the customer the full valve job is the way to go. When someone gets towed in with a car that is a pile of.... and is crying about having no money,needs the car,what's cheapest way to fix it? I either have them tow the car somewhere else or get out the chaulk board, sit them down and explain this option in detail. If I've learned anything about running a shop,It's people are a hell of a lot easier to deal with when you give them choices, especially if they're not a longtime regular customer. BTW out of the 20 or so short cuts I've done nothing has ever failed.
This option is rarely offered to a regular customer because the car has been kept in good shape and we have mutual trust.