Yeah two phonies that are in it for the money and not at all for the cause.

There are ways to say what Rosie said, ways that can get the same point across -- but instead she had to do it in her usual fat-head way... a way that the people that need to be lead a bit won't entertain.

Is what she said true? Partly -- her numbers are off, but her theory is right. The fact that before we went there fewer people -- Iraqi and American, etc. were dieing -- and now there are more. Saddam was a bastard, but in a nation full of bastards, what are you going to use to control them? A bigger bastard.

For us to think that these people are going to all of a sudden see our "way of life" -- and follow it is moronic.

Simple as that.

She blew it.