thanks bpaz h i will put that in the pool of reasonable things to try .....this thing does not have very many vacuum line and I have recheck all of them...u see I am very use to working on older Hondas that are a vacuum nightmare to say the least. This MB only has about 10 vacuum lines that I have found and they all seem to be connected.....I have noticed that the original line is very brittle .....most likely from heat.....I will however do a complete inspection of all lines and connections as well as components and search for strange goings on..


Ps. I have tried ether and still nothing