Wow, this stuff is getting kind of intense. Can we all agree that we will try our best to be good, law-abiding citizens? If blau's father did indeed come to a full stop at both signs, then by all means he should do all he can to fight the ticket. However, if he really didn't come to a complete stop, he is guilty and should just pay the fines. Of course, that's common sense, but where I think blau complicated the matter is when he said "he wasn't going that fast anyways", which indicates that his father did indeed roll through the stop. It doesn't matter how fast he was going, blau-- if he doesn't STOP at the STOP sign, then he is breaking the law and deserves the fine.

Court dismissed.

Zach
1992 300CE