From LeBenz "In summary the “stock” ML obviously will out-perform the G in virtually every regard except in ground clearance, wheel travel, and durability of the underside."

I've got to find that generally offensive as well as untrue. Here's a couple comparison shots. I put a larger tire on (how big fits on a ML stock?) with stock springs/shocks. I posted a picture of an ML with the largest tires I could find. You tell me which of these two vehicles has better approach, departure!




No mater what numbers you quote, I don't believe you can take your stock ML where I took my stock G. I'll let you use any tire you want that you can fit with no modifications. Iron Chest (Rated 9) and Holy Cross (rated 9, upper section) come to mind. I couldn't even convince MODIFIED vehicles to go with me. Oh, and the price... I paid 12k for mine, what did the ML cost?

You like to talk about it's ability to climb. Big deal, my Subaru could climb a 45 degree flat slab if you gave it hell. That picture I keep seeing off of Harold's site is basicly a really steep road. It's climbing over uneven rocks that measures the worth of a 4x4 in my book. If you ever want to run a real trail, just give me a ring. You can shut us all up right away by just running one of the above trails.