JIm what candidates are you listeneing to?
Maybe Obama will "get us out NOW", but Hillary surely won't---at least if she actually acts as she says ( one can never be sure).
As for whether the country is ready for a balck or woman President. I think we are. But, that does not mean the Country wants THIS black, or THIS woman. Not voting for Obama or Hillary does NOT mean that I am opposed to blacks or women in general; just these specific ones. I object to the subtle argument that anyone not voting for Hillary hates women, and anyone who does not vote for Obama hates blacks. By that reasoning half og the democrat party are racists!
Obama has mastered the art of not saying anything. Everyone knows he wants change, but I don't think anyone has an idea of what change he will bring. I wish he would articulate his various positions, but so far, all I know is that he is articulate and good looking.
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Originally Posted by Jim B.
From what I have heard around here (typically from retired, educated, white people, both men and women, is this)
That race and gender thing is pretty much irrelevant.
Whichever candidate, from either party, that articulates a PERSUASIVE reasoned and logical platform and agenda for CHANGE, will win.
PARTICULARLY with reseect to the endless war in Iraq.
ALL OF THEM want us OUT of that.
Just OUT.
Right NOW.
Waging that war in Iraq is nothing more than some kind of intensely personal private agenda of George Bush and Dick Cheney. Those two will NEVER change from that idea. Never. Not EVER.
From what I have heard and observed, casually, word is that about 95% of the American public is totally just sick of it, just want s the troops back home, and is completely disgusted at the care (or lack thereof), given at the VA hospitals.
As the comedian said the other day, just what would you expect from a President who is a Texas oil man that gives you $4.00 a gallon gas?
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