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Old 02-07-2008, 11:28 AM
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14th Amendment

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Originally Posted by Lycoming-8 View Post
All of my late arrival ancestors (1850 to 1870) became citizens, so yes it made sense that their children born in the US were automatically citizens. None of my early arrival ancestors (1630 to 1635) bothered to become citizens. DUH... they were here before the Rev. war and before the Constitution, and all of their children were citizens by nature of the fact that they helped found this country. AND because those here before that did not have any IMMIGRATION LAWS !!!

So, NO it makes no sense whatever that the bastard children of illegal immigrants, no matter their origin, should be citizens of the US just because they are born inside our borders!!!!!!!

You sure couldn't expect to be a citizen of Germany or Switzerland just because your parents happened to sneak into either of those countries just before you were born!?! Or Mexico either, but then why would anyone want to sneak in there????????
Lycoming, you're quite right. I grew up believing that "if you're born here, you're an American citizen" stuff too. But it's because the Fourteenth Amendment has been wrongly interpreted!

It begins: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside." (Emphasis mine)

People who sneak into our country for freebies are not "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," except when it comes to our right to toss them back out again. If the intent were to make citizens of everyone born here or naturalized, why the jurisdiction clause? It must be because the framers intended to restrict the right of citizenship, that's why.

We don't need new laws to deal with illegal immigration. Just enforcement of existing ones.
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