bingo....bad relay....thanks...I don't know why i was being a block head and didn't try that first.....

thanks for all your help.

another question...because you guys really know these cars....

I replaced the vacuum pod for the defrost flap behind the glove box...i still have air leakage from the defrost vents when I want only air to blow out the main vents.

I tried a spare hvac panel...didn't change anything....

do I have a problem with the vacuum tree....or do I need look at the recirc vacuum pods????? those will be a pain to replace...looks like dash pull..

also sometime I hear a clicking like a relay...when ac system turned off, if I push the Off button in and hold it the clicking goes away....