thanks for the link, and the info.

Guess it is jack and stands. Which I have and have used. ( got to get one of those long jacks with the 33" lift, and dump this trolly jack)
I was hoping someone may have invented a "better" way. I like my ramps, But have a hard time getting under the car on them. I need at least 3-4 more inches to be under there for long.

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