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Thanks for the personal attack and analysis.
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There was absolutely no personal attack in what I said.
I did attack your points of view and what you said.
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I would bet my carbon footprint is smaller than yours.
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I think it would be extremely hard for your carbon footprint to be smaller.
We run our vehicles on waste vegetable oil.
One of which was rescued from the junk yard.
Our home is all electric, and we buy electricity from Green Mountain energy, and is generated solely by wind and water power.
Where they do use any fossil fuels they make up the carbon points
by planting trees.
We recycle, reduce, and reuse, what we can.
Which is allot.
I wear lots of second hand clothes.
Most of our food comes from local grown, organic sources.
And I have produced a fertilizer called Tera Preta that
actually traps carbon for use in growing plants.
We are getting close to being carbon negative.
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Lets take your pie-in-the-sky idealism one point at a time:
Public transportation---Will work for some, but not all. Unless you are going to mandate that people live only in cities and get permission to live in rural areas. In my job, I carry a radioactive device for work--I am not permitted to use public transportation.
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It is not pie-in-the-sky idealism.
I put effort into what I think is right.
Public transportation cuts down on energy use.
Get you and your radioactive device a bicycle.
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Alternative fuels--OK, but there is a price to pay--Have you seen the rise in corn products since so much is used for ethanol production? Is this cost accounted for?
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I agree, ethanol is a joke, money making scam.
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Wind and solar---OK, but realistically speaking, what % of the solution do they represent? If you cannot see how nuclear power can save oil, than how will wind and solar contribute?
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Enough solar energy falls on the planet in one day to power
the world for a year.
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Also the Elitist will not allow wind farms to be built if it spoils theie view--think Kennedy and Streisand.
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There are some idiots in this world.
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I am all for reducing the amount of power I consume. I drive fuel efficient cars- ( No Hummer--hate them!), but it would be arrogant of me to determine how much fuel and energy you require. Just as it is arrogant of Al Gore to use waste energy while telling me to conserve. My house is about 1200 SF so my impact is not large.
The problem is government types--people who think government should contrrol all resources and parcel them out as they deem appropriate that is the problem.
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I am not for big government.
I do not need the government to play mommy and daddy for me.
The government is what has gotten us into this war and this energy mess.
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You say we conquer the middle easr for its oil---so how much oil have we taken in our time in Iraq?
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That is what was in the story by the general you quoted.
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For the foreseable future OIL is the energy source. We need to be loking at alternatives, but solar and wind are not nearly sufficient. We keep hearing that practical electric cars are almost here. But I've been hearing that for 40 years, and still electric cars are impractical for most people. Proponents of electric cars still have not solved the dispoasl issue--so it is simply ignored when they talk so glowingly about them.
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Go rent and watch a movie called Who Killed the Electric Car.
Then get back with me on that one.
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Do you really think the Chinese, with their awakening industry will go solar and wind powered?
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Yes, especially after we use up all the oil.
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Do you see yourself as a left-wing nut??
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No, it is people like you that have to put me in some sort of category.
Personally I am a realist.
I try my best to see the world for what it is,
and to make the best decisions I can for all involved.
I am honest, wise, and content.
How well do you sleep at night ?
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Your impratical utopianism makes me laugh!
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Wow, that is not arrogant at all !
Your fear based, self centered, ego driven, hedonism is disgusting to me.
My way, or what you call utopianism,
is not impractical,
I live it.
And many others do too.
RichC
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