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Originally Posted by leathermang
Knightrider,
Why would you suggest he replace the orings and not even mention flushing the system.. not logical. If you open it up at all the joints there is no reason not to flush before putting it back together.
Why in the world do you not already have your license ? It is an open book test... I think you will be able to pass it....and if not you can take it again....
I am thinking that if you were required to study or find the answers to the test I might not have to spoon feed you some of the facts about the ( illegal in many states and unnecessarily dangerous ) HC refrigerants . But you can't resist promoting them....while failing to mention the actual drawbacks...it is the failing to present a balanced picture that requires me to post in reply to them... but I have plenty of electrons left in my computer... and I am sure that people will learn more about refrigerants with you promoting them than otherwise...
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If I had to explain the entire procedure here, there would be no room for you to post!

Because our air down here is so dry, about 3% humidity, flushing would optional AFTER checking for leaks. Flushing is not recommended section by section, but the entire system at the same time. Checking for leaks is a must do since we are starting over and there is no point to being flushed if your evaporator is bad and needs to be replaced for instance! It happens and the whole idea here is this man is going by what he has been told by a previous owner who is tring to accurately remember, which is questionable at best. There is a reason that his system has been out of service for so long after being retrofitted for R134A and the FACT that someone spent so much money here and never bothered to maintain it worries me because this is not logical unless something really went wrong when the rest of the car seems to be a good buy!
Frankly, my first test would be to replace the O rings and since these are cheap and then add dye to the system along with dried air from a compressor to 140 lbs. and wait. Check for leaks then flush the system!

Does it sound logical to you that someone would spend about $900 on a newer compressor and more on related retrofit service costing upwards of $1000 easily and letting it go? These cars have had old evaporators fail and this requires removal of the dash to replace which could be one reason. I hope someone just got lazy here, but neglect is just as bad.
You spoon feeding me the facts on unecessarily dangerous and illegal HC's are not necessary. I never said these were completely safe, but you conviently fail to mention the more dangerous side effects of HFC's and this man will have children in the car!!!!

I don't trust the government to tell me what is safe because the special interest lobbyists need to protect their corporate partners, the same way the FAA has gotten so cozy with the Airlines that planes which should have been inspected frueqently have their paperwork forged and had missed saftey inspections for more than 2 1/2 years!

Or are you not watching the news? You are spoon feeding everyone who reads your posts based on your own biases because you believe what you are being spoon fed!

The government is supposed to be impartial, but they no longer are and 99% of users from this forum see through this even if they agree with you on your position on HC's.
These agencies are no longer unbiased! Senator Barry Goldwater told us what would happen if we let corporate business interests get to comfy with our elected representatives and now it's happening, but like the frog in the boiling water, it's happening so slowly the frog is not even aware he is being cooked alive!

These same agencies are now promoting what they are told to using the same scientific basis the liberals use on global warming to promote their own agenda! DuPont has spent MILLIONS in Congress to get their way and protect their patent rights. What is happening now is very reminiscent of what happened in the early 1900's on the west coast with transportation, both rail and stage. Both of these Monopolies lobbied our government to regulate others carriers and competitors out of business so they could then provide whatever crappy service and products they saw fit because competition was against the law. Business and landowners as well as cattle ranchers only had one means of getting their product to market, a railraod that ran on it's own schedule with no regard to custiomer needs and a stage that ran when it felt like it with no regard for customer needs, because there was no longer ANYONE to force them to live up to their agreements AND they were free to charge whatever the market would bear!

This is what the head of the FAA was recently busted for and he put passenger safety behind what the airlines wanted! Even a member of congress asked during the recent investigation "What does it take to get fired at the FAA?" Because the head of the FAA got to cover his ass and is still employed earning our tax dollars in another position.
Don't you think you and I would be FIRED ON THE SPOT and blacklisted for this in the private sector? I'm not just encouraging others to look at alternatives seriously with a little common sense, I'm hoping to STIMULATE others to
DARE TO THINK FOR YOURSELVES INCLUDING YOU! iF YOU WONT, NO ONE, INCLUDING ME WILL EVER CONVINCE YOU OTHERWISE.