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Old 05-12-2008, 01:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Johnson View Post
High Efficiency Gasoline Engine Using
Plasma Hydrogen Enhancement
• Hydrogen addition provides a large increase in fuel
octane number.
• High octane fuel allows higher performance engines
(turbocharging, high compression ratio).
• Engines can be smaller and more efficient.
• Hydrogen addition also facilitates ultralean burn.
• Engine efficiency can be increased by up to 30%.
From experiments at MIT Sloan Automotive Laboratory, 2003
http://www.psfc.mit.edu/research/plasma_tech/PDF/dan_cps.pdf
Correct, but you can take a fuel that it being used inefficiently, input energy to transform it to a more efficient form and net an efficiency gain.
You're loosing sight of the fact that the Sun's energy (primarily) is the initial input. Yes, it would be more efficient to directly use the Sun as an energy source rather than a by-product of it but at this time it is not practical.
The laws of thermodynamics are not being violated.
Wake up.
Maybe someday people will take a bit more time to think things through.
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Nothing you said is against anything I said.

I agree with you on most of your ideas...

I can use hydrogen to supplement the fuel in my vehicle and it will run better.
I can also use propane to supplement the fuel and it will run better.

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The concept is the same.
The outcome is the same.
The two supplemental fuels are different.

One is hydrogen.
One is propane.

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Making hydrogen costs a lot more than
propane.

There is no way to make hydrogen that is cheaper than propane...

Not with a windmill powering a battery charger.
Or forcing water thru tiny cracks at high pressure.
Or using the alternator of a car.

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The problem is not whether it works or not.
The problem is the cost.

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There is simply no way that we know of, that we can produce
any form of energy that is more efficient than the process it took to
make it.

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It takes more energy in gasoline to run the cars motor to turn the
alternator to make the current that it takes to produce hydrogen
via electrolysis, than the energy you will get out of burning the
hydrogen you just produced.

If this were not true, every cycle of the engine would produce more
and more energy. As time passed the engine would be producing enormous
amounts of excess energy. We would eventually be able to power
everything in the world with the one engine.

No one has figured out how to do that yet !
Or we would be doing it !

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