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Originally Posted by tompaah7503
As a diesel nut AND being environmentally conscious I'd say there are idiots in both camps, as there are idiot democrats, republicans, europeans, asians, blacks, whites and what not.
Take your own reply for example where you blame "enironmentalist liberals" for high diesel prices (ref: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=1863291&postcount=14 ), not much facts there.. I didn't want to hi-jack that thread but this one might be appropriate of asking you, do you have any numbers on US recoverable oil reserves and where are you getting them? If you can present them, please also consider doing the math and divide those reserves (proven and probable) with the current US daily oil consumption and let's see how many days you'd be able to run the US with these oil reserves.
I'll take ANWR as an example so you get the clue: median estimates for ANWR (recoverable, not proven) says there's about 10 billion barrels of crude. That's 500 days of US consumption there. That's right, you'd be able to run the US only 500 days with ANWR. Personally, I don't think that's worth billions of dollars and a ruined environment.
(Came to think about another fun fact: US oil companies are not nationalized, so any crude found and recovered in ANWR would be dumped and priced on NYMEX, i.e. sold to the world market, for world market prices, thus it wouldn't make even a dent in crude prices/your diesel price)
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to be an a--h-le, but if you're going to accuse treehuggers of not being scientific, please do your own math first.
Have a nice day!  |
I do blame environmentalist liberals for our problems, it is a reputation well deserved and hard earned. Even if there is only 500 days (a conservative estimate the liberal media loves to use) it would probably not be worth going after if it wasn't for the AGING PIPELINE WE ALREADY HAVE IN PLACE! So I stand by my assertion.
Liberals fought us right here in Arizona for trying to build the frist of it's kind in the Nation, the largest Solar Power Plant in history! Gee, I thought that getting away from oil and making the transition was a GOOD thing.
I spoke of facts and evidence, particularly about hydrogen generators for automobiles and was sent a ton of hate mail since I decided to let other members send me mail, something I won't do anymore, because I pointed out how it is taking MORE horsepower to run the alternator to power electrolysis to generate hydrogen that it gives you in return!
There is no way to ever achieve the 40% you are promised and you will never make back the $500 cost! But when I posted how it was mathematically impossible and how it is costing you the MPG your currently getting, well then I must be a Rush Limbaugh affiliate because I'm not willing to do my part!
The whole thread started with a post of videos hosted on You Tube and brought to the forum by Chad300tdt about the promise of algae based Biodiesel.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=223072
the first video is from 2006 and the second is from late 2007 and we are making algae based biodiesel right here in Arizona!
As far as oil resources go, I fully support getting to the resources where it is logical and ANWR is logical. I post my facts.
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showpost.php?p=1850928&postcount=5
The last thread link here was what started the fight. It's how it is logically impossible to use a hydrogen generator to get free fuel in this manner.
The hate mail I got from this was excessive and leads me to stand by my opinion and statement.
State where you get facts for the ruined environment and billions of dollars spent with a pipeline in place.
A drilling rig that they want to use can fit in a 4X6 foot cement platform, which is a long cry from the huge rigs we saw in the 1960's and 1970's. If the leechate in landfills can be stopped for the spread and seepage of mercury from compact flourescent bulbs, then it can apply to mining and oil exploration. You cant cherry pick one and not the other.
