I feel kind stupid following this guy (sublakedesron) ....... but buy a Zune. Once you get the hang of it, it's painfully superior to the Ipod.

The remark about no possible converter for the Zune is completely off base. My Alpine, and every decent aftermarket radio, can/is outfitted with an adapter that fits at the headphone input jack. I enjoy the headphone input adapter because of the wide range of applications as opposed to the purely I pod adapter.