don't waste your time talking to someone who has been brainwashed by a cult
find me a nice daily driver w126 or w108 in l.a. for cheap - i promise not to drive it to any churches or political rallies (scout's honor-well so to speak, agnostics aren't allowed there) or even to a polling place

btw some of my best friends are "believers" - i just know not to go there
if there is a"god", its the experience of running flat out at 105 on a deserted freeway at 5am on a saturday - with coltrane blaring and the big 5.0 purring at about 3k rpm - a beautiful mixture of sound and speed and exhilaration and engineering and nature - sun coming up - and also a wonderful solitary moment (and if i crash-hey i wont hurt anyone but me -and in that 126 i probably will walk away)
peace