Originally Posted by 450slcguy

Exactly, live a clean and honest life and there is no need for religion.

But most of the religious nut jobs I've met will stab you in the back the first chance they get if it advances their careers or wealth. On Sunday morning they go to church and ask forgiveness. Come Monday morning and it's back to the same old routine. Instead of taking that forgiveness and modifying their behavior to be a better person, they use it as an excuse to continue their sinning, proudly proclaiming they were forgiven. How lame is that?