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Originally Posted by Jim B.
No, there has been NO "victory". Sorry. The best we have to hope for is a really well planned withdrawal that allows the Iraqi people to maintain a modicum of stability.
I fully understand what "victory" means. I know what "defeat" means. Iraq is neither. It is in that big gray area of "draw". nobody won, nobody lost [well, except for half a million Iraqi people and the families of all the American and Coalition troops who were killed or wounded].
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Absolutely correct.
To achieve total "victory", you need political stability. You'll achieve political stability in a country with three completely independent religious factions when hell freezes over.
There is NFW this country doesn't fall back into military turmoil within 10 years of our "departure".
Naturally, if we maintain a presence of 75,000 troops to prevent that from happening, we never did get to the end of the original conflict.
However, be clear that last Saturday was exactly 5 1/2 years since the declaration of "Mission Accomplished" by the most accomplished moron in history.