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Originally Posted by dculkin
That language is absolute. The only way that our right to bear arms can be infringed is by amending the Constitution. No ifs, ands, or buts.
The dispute over the 2nd Amendment is not about whether the right to bear arms can be infringed. The dispute is over the scope of the right itself. If the right were absolute and unlimited, then we each would have the right to own bazookas, tanks, nukes, etc. I don't think common sense or history would support that interpretation of the 2nd Amendment. Beyond that, I don't think you will find any clear guidance about the precise scope of the right to bear arms. Ted Nugent thinks he's got it figured out, but that's because he's an arrogant blowhard. Hardcore advocates of gun control think they have it figured out, but they are blinded by their hatred and/or fear of guns. The answer is somewhere in between. I don't think anyone, not a single person, can say with certainty where the answer is. It is something that will just have to be worked out, probably in the Supreme Court someday.
Going back to the original post in this thread, we are still waiting for someone to give an example where Obama voted to infringe 2nd Amendment rights.
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Yes! Im so glad you asked! Look it up here:
http://www.gunbanobama.com and verify the results here:
http://www.congress.org !
The NRA has no reason to lie and even all Lobbyists have have reasons to protect their own positions, but Obama has gone to extremes. He voted 3 TIMES for a law that would forcibly prosecute someone for using a gun for self defense of themselves and family in their own homes even if the intent of the intruder was to commit a homicide! Just how real does it have to get for you?????
A College Student was recently sleeping a little after midnight right here in Arizona when 2 burglars broke in through the front door. They woke the student and were armed with baseball bats and told him they were taking his computer (laptop) jewelry and any other valuables they could find and if he resisted, he would be killed. Well he happened to grab his Ruger M.40 before heading into the living room and shot both of them to death after hearing that!
It so happened that his computer was on and he had a video surveillance system on it that caught the whole thing on disc! it took the police 1 hour to establish this as a justifiable killing because he was trying to protect himself and his property! Obama would have had that man charged with murder and thrown in jail!
What makes you think that criminals are going to lawfully buy guns and go through a background check?? In one state where I lived, the city voted to become a gun free zone and you know what happened? Withing 6 months, all of my roomates (4 of them) were robbed at gunpoint where previously you had a right to carry and that right was taken away!
Where do you rewrite the Constitution of the United States? What do you not get about "and these rights shall not be infringed"?
The whole idea of not infringing upon your right to keep and bear arms was so your government would not be able to enslave it's own people through tyranny and militarisation! God help us if your stupid enough to go along willingly!
http://www.gmu.edu/departments/economics/wew/quotes/arms.html
The supreme Court ruled in favour of gun owners in Washington DC to keep and bear arms in their own homes just a couple of months ago. What brought this to the attention of the Supreme Court was a case in which a man killed an intruder who happened to break into his home high on drugs and threatend to kidnap and rape his 11 year old daughter!
And for those of you who don't like certain weapons like automatic rifles, here's this: A gun ban has NEVER been successful at eliminating those types of weapons, in fact just the opposite happens! When these guns are licensed, you know who and where the owners are! When they are illegal, only the criminals have them and their numbers explode! We can't even find all the illegal aliens living here. what makes you think that our government, the same one who couldn't find their a$$es with both hands can find all these weapons you want to ban? Only law abiding citizens have ever given up their right to keep and bear arms!