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Old 12-08-2008, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 450slcguy View Post
How bout we start wiping out federal government pension/health retirement benefits?

Lets throw in the Cops, Teachers and Military people too. No more pensions/health benefits. No more 20 and out. Their all union workers, and all paid by Fed/State retirement funds, aren't they?

Let them all get 401k plans, like most of the American public nowadays.

Don't just pick on the UAW people. The Federal/State goverments are just as broke, if not more so.
To my knowledge, the only 20-and-out folks carry guns. You want a buncha gun-totin' ol' farts wheezing up and down streets looking for a place to pee? How about a couple of old guys taking down a cranked-up biker? 20 and out for L.E. & military is fine with me. It's a special duty with special responsibility.

The federal retirement system changed from civil service (CSRS) to FERS about 20 years ago. The current system is a 3-legged system of SSI, 401K and annuity. Failure to pay into 401K essentially reduces federal retirement by at least 1/3 o(for low-pay) and more for GS-9 and above. Meanwhile, gov pay for the same job has lagged the private sector for about Clinton + Bush = 16 yrs and the gap (until uh ... this year) has been growing.

It ain't your grandpa's generous system.
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