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Old 12-19-2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Graplr View Post
I don't think we can.

I think we could describe the exact same universe twice. The first time we describe it we could say in this universe everything happens for a reason. Then we could re-describe the exact same universe and say in this universe things happen randomly.

On the outside appearance there would be no way to tell universe 1 from universe 2. Only if you had some sort of 'inside knowledge' (for lack of a better term besides divine knowledge) would you know in which universe did things happen for a reason and in which things happened randomly.

In both examples everything happens exactly the same. Because of that there is no way of telling if things happen for a reason in this universe or not.
Man, I like that. Nice job!

For any system to be provable from a scientific point of view the observer has to be able to stand outside of the system she is studying. This is to prevent observer biases or influences. Thus, to prove the existence of reality the observer must stand outside of it. But that is not possible (or if it is possible, only one "person" has ever returned from it).
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