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Old 12-29-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim View Post
Probably nothing. The Mexicans would probably fight it though.
I'd bet there would be a slew of empty gunracks.
















People often lose sight of the forest for the leaves when talking about Israel.
Most here seem to think Israel is justified in killing over 200 Palestinians in retaliation for the killing of one Israeli. If Israel is justified in retaliation, how then are not the Palestinians justified in retaliating for their deaths?

In order to find justification for retaliation, then one must find the first death resulting in conflict between a jew and palestinian. Good luck with that. If you can't find it, then retaliatory right is determined by which side you happen to be on, not by justice. That makes the Palestinians no worse than the Israelis.

What is the goal of Israel's retaliation? It was an insufficient action for genocide. Their enemy has demonstrated that they will not be cowed. If the goal is punitive, then it is difficult to hold onto just-ness when not only they did not target the specific offenders, but also killed 230some more people than the offenders did.
One thing is definitely not the goal: to stop terror attacks.

In any case, all of that misses the point. Israel was created, and later seized more, territory from the Palestinians. The Palestinians lost. The Israelis oppress them. Many Palestinians continue to fight. Israelis fight back. Palestinians can't win because they are outmatched, so some of them kill civilians. They know it's wrong, so they commit suicide at the same time to they don't have to live with themselves. Israelis kill the ones fighting, sometimes the ones not fighting, and continue to oppress and make their lives hell on earth, prompting them to seek a better life in heaven. That desire is channeled and manipulated by power mongers.
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