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Old 02-23-2009, 03:22 PM
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The scientific problem of race coupled with the scientific problem of cognition seems like a horribly, probably hopelessly complex field of of study. ... Forget the problem of defining race, what does "IQ" measure? ... B
From the few IQ Test that I've seen and participated in over the years...it appears to be a quantified single number, the result of many different disciplines...English, Spacial Relationships, Math, History, etc...

If I were color-blind or blind altogether, a few that I had taken wouldn't mean anything...you needed to be somewhat visually equiped...

None of them though, took into account particular aspects of human interaction, like:

"Sign this paper and get a free slap in the face." GOOD or BAD

"How do you feel?" (Question asked of Spock, on Vulcan, during his "retraining" following his "rebirth.") ((O.K.!!! I'm a trekkie!! Go ahead and deduct 5 IQ points!!! )

My IQ has tested out, consistently, over 135...so what? I have what I consider Social-Interaction shortcomings...but why do I have the IQ I do? I read a lot of books and still do...book smarts...that's it...but socially, I'm a bit above "White trash" and lightyears from caviar...I like my beer just a few degrees cooler than room temperature and my wine completely gone (anything left in a bottle is being wasted...you can't re-cork a good wine...not around me!!!), visually, any women naked is great, but I won't go to bed with 'em 'cause I'm a one-woman kinda' guy...look but don't touch...simple and safe rule to (hopefully) live by...

The point being this: IQ Tests measure everyone on ONE PARTICULAR PLANE of existance...not on everyones' OWN level...that part hasn't been able to be put to paper...that's why they've been determined to be "racial" in their makeup...

Do you give a black kid with a high IQ rating more points for being able to survive living in the ghetto, vs. the black kid with the same IQ rating less points because his family was able to live in the suburbs where death by stray bullet before age 16 was less of an issue than death by a driving accident?

Does the white kid living in a trailer in the hills of Kentucky get extra points on his IQ score vs. the white kid with the same standard IQ number living in Bel Aire?

And, how do you GENETICALLY test for the above conditions?

You can't...ever.

Your genes don't show where you're going to live, how you're going to live and whether you're going to live to be 90, 70 or even survive the fetal stages of development.

This afternoon...I may decide to have one of those bottles of slightly-less-than-room temperature beers a like so much...and somehow, a little germ, floating through the air, landed right where my lips will partake of the sweet nectar from the Gods...

And tomorrow, my IQ won't mean squat...if I'm a vegtable or worm food, b/c of that one little germ...

Conditions folks...it all comes back to conditions...

Look at this way...if someone is shooting at me...do I want to stand behind the smartest guy in the world while he reasons with the shooter, or do I want to stand behind the dumbest thing in the area (a rock) 'til the shooter runs out of bullets?

Next IQ question...
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