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Old 04-13-2009, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by aklim View Post
I never said that, did I? Listen closely. Yes, we are imperfect but we are not scum of the earth, are we? The way you present it gives the impression that we are. Sure, we do things wrong. The reason I say you have your self loathing ways is simply because you seem to direct any and all attention on a fault that many have on us only as though we are the only ones doing it.

There you go again. Sure, we have room for improvement. If you find a place where they don't, why don't you move there? I know I would, assuming they find you desirable enough to allow you in. Yes, we are responsible for our self-improvement. Nobody denies either of those ideas. However, as I said, you seem to portray us as the only ones with a particular fault. Hence the self loathing comment.
Dude, you're bordering on incoherent. Scum of the earth? I've never come close to that. I say that we shoot ourselves in the foot, over and over and over.

I have no control over that which others do. On a national level, the only govt. I have even the remotest chance of having some influence over is ours. In most all matters, it is way preferable to try to improve oneself than to holler for others to improve, similar on a national level.

From American chest beaters I hear that we're the greatest, that we have in no way ever behaved arrogantly etc. We're just about perfect to hear the rightie bloviators tell it.
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