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Originally Posted by JollyRoger
The Right continues to ignore what is at the heart of this discussion. The issue is once again, total disregard for the system of checks and balances that make this democrcy work. Wiretapping? Sure, get a court order. And why do we do that? Because absent that, a President is free to wiretap his politial enemies, dissenters, and the opposition parties all under the cover of some BS claim he can make. We are now finding out that is exactly what happened in the case of illegal wiretapping. Torture? Fine, get a court order. Can't get a court order because it is illegal? Fine, pass a law and set out the circumstances in which it can be used and the check and balance of the judicial system against the executive. And all for the same reasons. Absent this, and another step down the road to fascism, a President can torture dissenters, members of the oppostion party and his political enemies, all under the guise of some BS story.
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Exactly right.
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What these people did was illegal, and they should be prosecuted liked anyone else...
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I'm not so sure about that, although prosecutions in court would be preferable to Congressional hearings. Congress can't be trusted with this issue. Both sides would turn it into a circus and we don't have time for that.
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...It is beng alleged that the Iraqis were tortured in order to ellict some sort of information on an Al Queda-Iraqi link, one which Bush and Cheney claimed existed when in fact they had absolutely no solid information that it did. Anyone involved in that should be sent to prison, and in their case, once the evidence is heard, I think a jury will agree.
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On that one, I agree completely.