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Old 04-24-2009, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by dculkin View Post
If you say so, but my question stands. If the U.S. is too morally upright to engage in torture, then why did we do what we did to Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and Dresden? What was our moral justification for doing that?
This goes back to my core beliefs. I used marriage as an example. If we got married today, we each swear loyalty, love, etc, etc. Yes, if asked today, we'd both say we mean each and every word. FFWD 5 years down the road when we have an upside down mortage, poor job prospects and poor salary, the roof is leaking, kids keep screaming 24X7, etc, etc, etc, we divorce. Why? We did take a pledge to X,Y,Z in sickness and health, etc, etc, TILL DEATH DO WE PART. Were we lying then? No. We believed what we said at the time. So why the divorce now?

When those items were happening, we were locked in a life or death struggle and fortunately, we rose up to the challenge and said "Ideals are fine. I prefer to be alive to discuss them.". Today, we have the luxury of sitting back and talking about our ideals because we are not at crunch time yet, or so we think.
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