thanks for the input, i have a sealed box and ive managed to have it facing up so you can see the subs through the first aid kit hole. they sound pretty good now that ive removed this and toyed with my radios filters and amp settings. I dont know if its worth it to take out both med kits in the back because one seems sufficient. However the subs sound real boomy, and im wondering if this is because its the bass is to high on the amp setting or just because it is a sealed box. I was hoping to get clear hits from the sealed type, but its probably just some settings i have to change or maybe input signals. Ill get back to you when i have it sounding better. BTW the wiring wasnt that bad until i got to the firewall. i used 4 gauge wire and it needed a huge hole, so instead of drilling through the firewall i fished it through a grommit that was there. i think its the one that covers the hood relase also, this seemed like the easiest way to wire it, if u need pics, just tell me