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Originally Posted by JonL
My thinking isn't that if I eat a plate of beans someone else will have more to eat. My thinking is that large scale animal farming is a huge environmental problem that affects everyone. If I eat a plate of beans, I have done something to make the world better for me and my children, and also for you although I don't really give a tinker's damn about that. (Just kidding.  )
My point about eating vegetarian within a day, is that the other poster said something about having to put a gun to his head to make him give up meat. My comment was intended to mean that faced with a choice between not eating at all or eating vegetarian, he'd make the vegetarian choice within one day.
I've got nothing against eating meat or fish or anything else. I've got a problem with the overfishing that threatens to topple the food chain upon which much of life depends, and I've got a problem with the factory farming of animals that is inhumane, unhealthy for the animals, unhealthy for the consumer, unhealthy for the farmer and their local community, and unhealthy for the planet.
Good that you don't give a tinker's damn about all the people on the earth. Perhaps if everyone felt that way we'd be... you tell me. Where would we be? |
See, here's the problem. I already live a very simple life. I have a small house, old cars, no debt, etc. I have, by US standards and quite likely European standards, etc. an already low impact lifestyle. You think its okay if "we" all "pay a little more" for our food. I already do that by buying local, farm coop, etc. I've heard this all before. Pay a "little more" for my food, my electricity, my fuel, healthcare, etc. etc. I already pay enough. I'm the guy that said, yeah, I'd put a gun to my head if I had to eat vegetarian. Actually, I'd just go get my meat myself, not eat beans of not eat at all, like I said.
If you are naive enough to think that the "world" wouldn't choose themselves over you, any minute of any day of the week, then have that nice plate of beans. India, China, etc. will still be there, working hard to "be like us" even long after even "WE" are no longer like that. Think about that.
RT