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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton
Excellent.........a person similar to myself..........but with a family.
Now we can have a good discussion.
Let's look at one of your employees..........not a skilled carpenter..........just one of the highly qualified assistants. Let's say that you pay him $20.00 per hour (I'm just guessing).
His annual income is therefore $40,000 per year. And, let's say that he, like you, has a family to support. His after tax net is about $32,000.
Let's take a look at his expenses:
Housing: $14,000 (including utilities)
Food: $9,100 (includes all drugs and toiletries)
Clothes: $2,000
Auto: $5,000
Recreation: $2,500
He's already in the hole by $600. and he hasn't purchased any flat screen TV's or cell phones or Ipods or computers or XBox 360's or any of the crap that you claim that these people purchase.
So, explain to me how he can afford another $10,200. for health care...........please..........this ought to be excellent...........
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I don't have any employees anymore. It is too hard to find people who take pride in their work anymore. They all think that you are getting rich off of their labor, but they forget that you are providing them with a job. But, I digress, that is a rant for another time.
If you make $40,000 a year and have 3 kids you will not pay any taxes, and you will get a EIC refund from the govt. So there is an additional $8,000+ there. Forget the $2,500 for recreation- It is a luxury- not a necessity. The other things are too variable by region etc. for me to comment on accurately. So, using your numbers they could have health insurance, but life would not be very fun. But, once again it is about your priorities. Presently my health ins. is $6540 per year. That is with a $5,000 deductable, so it is basically catastrophic coverage. I don't have dental coverage so I pay out of pocket for that, and all 3 of my kids have or are going to need braces. Same with vision. Needless to say I have a large financial burden with healthcare. Kind of a bleak picture if you think about it, but I still dont think is the job of the govt. to see to it that everyone lives the good life and has no worries. Nor do I believe that if it were that they would do it properly. Name me a few things that the Govt. does well. Most of my dealings with govt employees involve frustration and large amounts of money out of my pocket. The building dept comes to mind. I could give a hundred examples of incompetence, negligence, and just plain dont give a sh%t attitude, and I wouldn't expect it to be any different with healthcare. I think It is better for my children not to have their futures mortgaged before they can even vote than for me to possibly(but I doubt it ) save some money on healthcare now. BTW this is just my own opinion and I am not trying to legislate other people to live my way, but the same is not true of the healthcare reform advocates. It is not help if you don't request it and it is forced on you.
I don't believe I am similar to you at all-We dont seem to agree on anything. And you owe me an apology for your disparaging remarks about my ability to run a family.