hey guys and gals,

thanks for your replies

Well I got most of the turbo off. The bottom two bolts which fix the turbo to the exaust manifold are on there to tight for my cheap tools. I might have to go to the store and but a real long 17mm wrench, but I am afraid that I may break the nut.

So, I removed the oil pan and banged out the grommit and lower pipe. Since I did the dirty deed I am wondering if it is possible to finish this job without taking off the turbo. I am strongly considering sawing off 5mm or so of the upper drain pipe to allow me enough room to fit them in.

Just a side note,
I finally have my own garage that I can leave a mess and have jobs half done without the stress. I used to have to do all my repairs in parking lots of the apartments that I lived in. What an upgrade. Plus the garage is heated. dont tell the wife but this is why we bought it.

Thanks for your help.

bob c