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Originally Posted by tonkovich
uh, perhaps, if you knew of kissinger's double dealing (sabatoging lbj and negotiating a secret deal with nixon) in '68, which scuttled the paris peace talks, and his (and the u.s. government's) agreement to exactly the same terms four? five? years (and thousands of lives lost) later, you would have a different view of both those wonderful americans. for the record, lbj was too chickens**t to pull out before the 66 midterms (listen to the tapes) - kissinger is an evil man and war criminal, starting with vietnam, then chile, and on and on, and nixon talked tough on vietnam and is responsible for many deaths, cynically doing anything to get into office and then get re-elected.
as to the "north" vietnam - china connection, you might note the brief border war between those two in the mid '70's, after the unification of north and south vietnam.
the vietnamese were fighting-for a thousand years- to free themselves from occupation. from the chinese, the japanese, the french and then the americans.
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Uh' perhaps if it where true! Surely a scholar such as you is capable of documenting a fact of two contained in this thus far completely unsubstantiated allegation? You know just little things like a timeline and an explanation as to what position Kissinger occupied that gave him the capacity to "sabotage" LBJ, maybe even the nature and extent of the "secret deal" with Nixon. But you'll have to do better than LBJ "of Tonkin Gulf fame/credibility" talking to someone on the phone and a line or two in one of his co-conspirators books though!
As to the "north" vietnam - china connection, you might note the brief border war between those two in the mid '70's, after the unification of north and south vietnam.”
So you are attempting to compare and contrast the material, manpower, and political support which the PRC provided and that the North Vietnamese enjoyed for more than a decade with this relatively insignificant border skirmish to make what point?