Originally Posted by pj67coll

Right there is the problem with the American thought process. Worrying about he "end game" before thinking intelligently about the origin and first steps.

Remember, it hasnt "turned out" yet at all. It's ongoing and will probably be ongoing for decades to come. We might cut and run now, or soon, but we will be back, wether you like it or not.

Getting rid of the blight on humanity that was AQ and their medieval sponsoring thugs was the right thing do to. But it needed to be done right. Which meant the US had to blitzkrieg the place with no concern for US casualties with the intention of swamping the AQ hideouts and shocking and awing these goons sufficiently that there was enough of a "wedge" in the place that "maybe" something positive could have been accomplished.

It's a big "maybe" I agree. However failure was garanteed by the pussyfied way Bush danced with the UN (Blairs doing) and worried so much about the US public not wanting to hear about losing troops in a far away dusty place that they tried to do it by proxy using local gangs to attempt to do our dirty work for us. Never having enough troops in country so that they taliban could see we were too weak to be feared thus effectively fought until such time as our resolve broke. An now finally telling them to just hang on a few more months and we'll hand victory to them on a silver platter.

So we will then be in a position of having one of the ugliest gang of criminals back running the country and if Pakistan becomes inhospitable (for whatever reason) to AQ, ready to provide them with another safe haven.

But that's ok apparently just as long as yanks can pretend we dont have to fight anymore.

Until next time that is...

- Peter.