Your advice has helped me over the years and much appreciated! 3 hours after the no start, The car started right up! This has been going on over 5 years. The only difference this time was that I had been using ether(spray quick start) Which worked every time BUT not this time. I know when ignition is working the ether works. It didnt work last try, not even a cough led me to believe that it is ignition. Battery strong, starter strong turns engine good rate. It was suggested that either the electric controller or/and a relay were possible causes. Can I get a picture of relay group with id on each? Again thanks for your assistance. Regards, Abe G PS This condition is when car is cold or warm after parking.