I hope it's not me TX Bill! I thought you said our debate was nothing personal? I was OK with that. If it was personal then don't say it wasn't. I did take it kinda personal at first about the price of my car, especially when you said in so many words I was showing off like your aunt or something. That to me was as candid as Delta's remark to William when he doesn't even know him that well. But anyway, I am over it now. I typically don't hold grudges. But considering the diversity of this forum, we will prob all benefit from one another more if:

#1 People don't automatically make assumptions about one another just because of a "local" stereotype or "o" I have seen that one before kind of thinking. It pisses people off.

#2 Be open to some of the other person's points and if they make sense to you that you at least acknowledge it. Why? You can't see facial expressions through the type (80% of the message sometimes, really!)

Even though I respect your knowledge and the fact that you are the moderator TX Bill, you kinda threw these 2 rules of engagement out the window. I mean, you guys seemed to just be trying to win a debate rather than listen to any of my logic.

Even in debating, I try to see the other persons viewpoint. I guess this is what rubbed me the wrong way about that thread. It's when someone totally closes their mind to even listening to the other side and makes false assumptions that I don't understand.

Delta, your values are admirable but your candor and assumptive remarks are probably unwelcome by some of the most tolerant souls. TX Bill made a mistake in assuming I was a show off or something and compared me to his relative. I did not like being categorized this way and felt it was unfounded. I am sure William felt similar when you were essentially making him look like a violent person with that "live by the sword" remark. I have to admit, he handled it quite well though.