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Old 05-10-2011, 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Pooka View Post
The assumption seems to be that if the gov takes anything it is money gone from me. This is nonsense.
That may be your assumption or the construction you use to structure your presentation (which is fine) but it's certainly not the only way to present the situation.

If two people receive comparable economic benefit from the government, however it is packaged (infra-structure, services, etc) and one pays $100 for it and the other pays nothing problems (eventually) will occur.

Your other remarks about republicans, conservatives, and whatever other groups you believe are mean/cruel/'ill-informed'/etc is fine. I mean I thought one of the purpose of an open discussion is for people to say pretty much what they want.

Setting aside what is right or wrong or who is or is not a good guy or a bad guy (those kind of battles don't work for me) I suggest that there are very corrosive consequences as much by giving unearned benefits as there are by disproportionally taking from the productive.

While being ironic in my comment I was also serious when I said no sane society would pursue such an approach.

It's unhealthy to the individual, primarily the recipient of unearned benefits and it is unhealthy to the society. Of the three entities I'm identifying; society, over-burdened achiever and undeserving recipient the one who will be least damaged is the high achiever.

Take a pupae in a cocoon. If allowed to struggle through the wall of the cocoon the emerging moth/butterfly will emerge, rest and fly away. If you take a razor and cut an opening in the cocoon the emerging creature cannot fly.

Do the same thing with a chick in an egg. Let it peck through at it will be fine. Cut an opening in the shell and the bird will not develop properly.

Struggling, encountering resistance, persevering is how we grow. Always has been. I've been going to the gym for 10 years. Once I hit 45 I knew if I didn't resist aging I was not going to be happy with my life.

Watching someone come in, uncomfortable, uncertain that they can do this, and in not-very-good shape. Those that persevere do more than strengthen their body. Their character and ability to handle other challenges that life will throw at them are also enhanced.
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