I have asked this question a bunch of times. I think you are asking the same question I posed, but I never got an answer -- just links to prior threads which did NOT answer the question. So, don't feel bad. I can get my seats out, but how in the world do you remove the seat from the rail part. You are absolutely correct in that you can get the 2 front screws out and the 2 back screws out, but how about the middle 2???? I ended up cutting the frames off -- this was the donor car. I have rebuilt my driver's seat, and I would love to put that into my car, but I cannot figure out a way to remove the seat from the rail / track system and I refuse to pay someone money for something that is probably a one time trick or something so simple, a caveman can do it. Except me