thankyou all for your input,my diag so far consits of,running a positive jumper to 1 fuel pump,it operates with ignition off,i have checked both fuses on top of ovp both fine,someone told my check fuse number 7,all underhood fuses fine,i also removed fuel pump relay,and ran the jumper wire,pump still operates with relay removed,i would guess the negative wires are chassis grounded to both fuel pumps,pumps operate with jumper and engine ckranks and runs with the jumper wire,im still diaging,not sure if its heading to be a defective relay tower,i will also check the pin numbers suggested,thanks

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