Originally Posted by SwampYankee

Jeezus, many of us agree that W was incompetent and in over his head. That alone doesn't preclude Obama from being the same.

Two and a half years in to his term and we're still in Iraq and Afghanistan, but now we're dicking around in Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Pakistan and a couple players to be named later. We've dumped a Trillion into the economy under the auspice of bringing the slump to a halt with virtually no results and are considering another Tril or two. At some point Obama owns this mess. Maybe we're not to that point yet, but there's been a sizable down payment

I'd like to think that you guys are just defending your respective parties/candidate/President for the sake of argument rather than steadfast beliefs that your guy is right and just and the other guy is wrong and irresponsible. But maybe not. It's not automatically an "either/or" discussion, it could be an "and" one. It could be that Bush and Obama suck.

Anyone got some Tylenol?