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Originally Posted by MS Fowler
I say "selfless love" and you come back with a list of oppression. Those are your words; not mine.
I do not doubt that Bible-believers have said what you write. Did you forget that I prefaced this with the statement that "submission" was misunderstood both by critics, and believers. Men are still fallen/ sinful creatures, and some will use whatever they can to dominate their wives. Submission is not domination.
If you take the "selfless love" out of the equation, the submission part no longer works as intended.
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So if submission was not those things I listed which it obviously was taken to mean for many hundreds of years, what does it mean? Most Christians over the years thought it meant women could not hold positions of authority in the Church. (as well as in society). Do you think that was a legitimate interpretation of submission?
Submission seems pretty clear to me--do what someone else tells you. That seems like a bad idea to me regardless of whether the person telling you what to do loves you or not.