Science, shat, shine and shinola, I am not following what there is to be proud of here, not that pride is necessarily a good thing anyway. The terms "discuss" and "argue" do not mean the same thing and should not be used interchangeably. If only we could see ourselves the way others see us. Everyone here who confuses the two should ask for forgiveness from everyone who ever called you argumentative or said you were impossible to live with. I hope you do windows better than you do experimental design.