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Old 08-23-2011, 02:55 AM
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Originally Posted by sjh View Post
I lived in a dozen states (not the northeast though) and this is, by far the worst I've seen.

But you may be right.

It really is a mess.
I drove cab in Oakland for a while in '95 and it is a rough scene. However, most urban areas have a zone that is similar. Seattle has a reputation as a civilized liberal city but it has some seriously rough neighborhoods in the Central District and Rainier Valley. Seems like most all cities whose team wins a sports championship has mayhem visited upon it by its youth in "celebration."
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