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Old 10-14-2011, 01:09 PM
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THANKS for the offer! your DIY's are legendary!
You will get all the help from me you need!
ok, yes mig gas is PERFECT for a flush agent.
I'd not use shop air for anything in an a/c system. the problem you run into is the moisture left in the lines will instantly ruin the desiccant in the receiver when you attach it. best to use dry gas 100% of the time.

as for the lower manifold, I'd replace it too. that way you don't have the corrosion gunk that's surely in the lines contaminating your oil, and you get fresh R12 fittings! because you WILL break the low pressure line fitting off when you attempt to remove the 134 adapters...


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Originally Posted by dieseldan44 View Post
OK, I read through the entire thread.

vstech and leathermang - I'll make you guys a deal - if you help me through my A/C 'rebuild' I'll document it all and write it up so it summarizes this thread into an article and DIY with FAQ's. You guys are warriors answering the same q's every year, so I want to make it easier for everyone in the future.

Normally, being in Boston, AC is not high on my list, but I have gotten so frustrated with no shops around here knowing what do on any A/C system, Id rather just buy the gear and do it myself.

I am rebuilding the 82 300D's AC. It is my fiances car and I want to hear complaints on how cold it is

- It had been converted to 134, but I would like to deconvert it to R12
- new evaporator already installed
- new condenser to be installed
- new compressor and o-ring kit from Carlisle in SA, TX is sitting at my feet
- new R/D purchased
- new expansion valve installed
- new upper manifold A/C hose. I'd like to re-use the lower manifold if possible.

tools i have acquired:
- robinair 2 stage 1.5 CFM vacuum pump
- R12 and R134a gauges
- A/C leak detector

I plan to in this order:

this fall:
- flush entire system and blow clean with dry shop air
- replace all o-rings using nylog sealant
- add 4 oz of mineral oil to compressor, 2 oz to evaporator, 2 oz to R/D
- pull vacuum for hours
- charge with 4 oz of R22 and inert gas (*) to check for leaks
next spring (car sleeps while salt is on road):
- re-evacuate, replace R/D, hold for an hour, then charge system with propane (j/k...seeing if you guys read this far) R12.

Questions for the experts -

(*) 1.) Can I use MIG welding gas (75% argon, 25% CO2) as my inert gas for the pressure test? I ask because I already have plenty of it.

2.) For the deconversion, I need to go back to R-12 fittings. How can I tell if I have damaged anything by taking the 134a fittings off? That isn't entirely clear.

3.) For the blowing out of the lines with air after the flush. If I use my air compressor with an inline desiccant and oil/water separator - is that OK? Even if there is a tiny amount of moisture that gets through, won't that boiled out during the vacuum step? (I could use welding gas here, but I don't want to waste it)

thanks, looking forward to learning to do this the right way...
dd
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