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Originally Posted by Honus
I have no training in crowd control, so I can't answer that question, but I assume that the best way to remove the protesters is the same way other police forces remove protesters. AFAIK, they don't use pepper spray in the manner the UC Davis cop did. Am I mistaken about that? Are you suggesting that his method was consistent with accepted police practices? No way. |
I'm not a specialist in crowd control either, and assuming here does not help much. I know non lethal force which causes temporary discomfort is an option- the most common is tear gas. Pepper spray is a common legal element in today's society. I don't know if LEO use pepper spray on a common basis. I am suggesting non lethal force which gives temporary discomfort is accepted practice, it's hard to watch "COPS" and see a person who is not complying with police commands get arrested that does not experience discomfort.
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Originally Posted by Honus
It was not a simple situation at all. Do you have any references to cite that say the it is the best method or that it only causes temporary discomfort? Or are they just your opinions? If they are just your opinions, then I think we have a tie because my opinion goes against yours on both points.
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That's a slick argument- is it simple or not? Then you can site many differing elements of the incident and say see- it's not simple. Your previous argument lumps all incidents similar to this and asks us to assume how crowds are removed. The issue here can be boiled down to this: the protesters were asked to move, they did not, and were given discomfort to assist with the removal. Would you have liked it better if the police dropped a tear can canister while he had a gas mask instead so that the protestors would comply? Your opinion has little sway on LEO tactics.
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